I have a question, and haven't been able to answer it by searching the internet. Are there any manufacturers currently producing round wire corn cribs? I'm thinking I may want one in the future. There weren't many used around here (central Va.), and most of those that were were square or rectangular of the wooden slatted style. I do know of an extremely large (for this area) galvanized crib. Looks alot like a grain bin from a distance. Will try to post some pics if I can get some. Thanks in advance.
I think Behlen was the last one. Binkley & Hurst in Lititz, PA bought the last half dozen cribs they made back around 1998 . . . . took a few years to sell them. Good used ones do show up for sale up in central PA . . . .
Take a road trip to Minnesota (or northern Iowa) sometime when you have a week or more to spend. Bring a trailer behind your pickup truck, a buddy who's not afraid of some manual labor, your gloves and wrenches and drive around the southern part of the state. It shouldn't take you long to spot one you like. Find the owner and there's a good chance he'll let you have it for little or nothing; if not go down the road to the next one and repeat the process. Now disassemble it and load it on your trailer. The roof is the hardest part - if you can find a way to lift it off the crib and bring it down to ground level, it's a lot easier to disassemble. The sides are a piece of cake - just take out the bolts and take them down in sections.
Yes there are lots in different parts of the counrty ! In my area there are only a few left ,most have been taken down or scraped ! Their are only a couple good one still standing ! The others are almost rusted away or beat up run in to used to hold up other this piles of stuff around them and in them! I have found a couple good ones here one I am bringing to my house for our picking show this fall! There are a few different manuf. One will come apart in five foot sections 3 high ! the other one that I have has one long rods down threw two sections panels !
Their are others that have tin liners in them for shelled corn also !
Thought you fellows might like to know this! I sent an email to Behlen asking if they still offered corn cribs, or could advise me of someone else who might. Just received an answer. They still make them to order. 12'8" or 16'6" diameter, 10' or 15' eave height. Approximately 4-6 weeks for delivery. They are not shown on the Behlen website, but you can definitely still get a new one.
Contact info:
Roger Hiesterman Behlen Country 402-562-4167
Maybe some of you guys would like to put up a new crib!
Anybody picking yet? Sure would like to see lots of picking/shelling/cribbing pics!
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I just might next year. Can't find a used one here. There's a guy over in the affluent area of Bucks County PA who bought every one he could find back when things were good. Wondered what he was doing with them, well he was recoating them and adding doors and bug screens and installing them in yuppie yards as 'reborn country gazebos', for $10,000 a pop no less! I planted Wapsie Valley OP corn (85 day) in the middle of May this year. Stalks are still green but ears are drying down. Deer business is starting to pick up and the cribs are almost empty, might try picking next week, but only on as-needed basis. I'm not sure I can crib it safely yet.
About $3.27 a bushel? And that doesn't include the price of concrete! I think most anyone could make a road trip to Iowa or Minnesota pay in a hurry, even if you had to pay $50 or $100 for a good used crib!
Not much I can do about the price. Just thought you fella's might like to know that they are available. Funniest part is, if you look in the Behlen Country catalog, they are listed as "Zoological Cages" for keeping zoo animals in! Even shows a tiger in one, I believe. Who would've guessed?
Just did some figuring.
12'8"x10=1609.6 bu/$2.09 bu
12'8"x15=2112.8 bu/$1.92 bu
16'6"x10=2735.2 bu/$1.55 bu
16'6"x15=3589.6 bu/$1.45 bu
Frt. and concrete not included, but you gotta buy the concrete anyway.
Don't know where the $3.27 a bushel figure came from, bit it didn't sound right to me.
-- Edited by jwmfarms on Thursday 19th of August 2010 04:07:38 PM
Your figures must be for shelled corn not ear corn. Divide your numbers by 2 and that is how much shelled corn you would get from the ear corn in that crib.
Determine the cubic feet inside the crib and multiply by 0.4
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Yes, those must be shelled corn figures. We had 2 of those 16'6" x 15' cribs years ago and we usually shelled +-1600 bushels each out of them. That is the bushel capacity I used for figuring the per bushel cost.
Zoological cages? I guess I could see that - maybe that's who they get to pay those prices for these "cribs"!
You are right. Those were shelled corn figures. My mistake. Still don't quite understand dividing by 4. If there is 1 bushel of shelled corn per 1.25 cu. ft., and 2 bushels of ear corn equal 1 bushel of shelled, shouldn't you divide total cu. ft. by 2.5 to get shelled corn capacity. Sorry for being so dumb, but I've never dealt with ear corn before. Just trying to get it straight in my head, and hopefully learn something.
On another note, what do you think of grinding ear corn for cattle feed? Anybody still doing this. I know it was done years ago. Don't have any cattle, but grain farming ain't hitting on much around here anymore. Have about 45 acres that would make good pasture (lighter ground, near house for ease of watering), own another 55 of open ground, and rent some small places nearby which could be used for corn and hay. Kinda thinking out loud, I reckon you could say. Just looking for some input.
jwm, I grind ear corn for my cattle. I have some in the creep feeder for the calves right now. I have a couple of other cowmen that are buying ear corn from me to feed.
For the calves I grind ear corn and alfalfa hay and put in some minerals. This is just my second year with ear corn so I'm no expert but the calves are doing good and not complaning.
I sell 30-40 tons per year to beef feeders. They like the cob in the mix because it slows uptake . . . good if you're trying to maintain and not fatten. I also have an old Gehl grinder/mixer and make about 30 tons a year of ground corn for people who don't have their own grinder. There's a lot of small, part-time beef feeders in this area, particularly in the hillier parts of the county where people have a house, barn and 10 acres that's too rocky or steep to do crop farming on, but they still want an ag activity to qualify for lower property taxes.
If there are deer hunters in your area and baiting is legal, then you can move a lot that way, too. I do 100 tons a year! but I'm also the only one in the area still picking ears, too.
Jwm, we (my pop, uncle, and I) still grind ear corn for our fat cattle. We raise 30-40 per year from our cow-calf herd and fatten them to finish. We start them right after weaning, mixing in some oats until they all come to the bunk at once. There is a pretty low chance of cattle foundering on ground ear corn because of all the roughage from the cob and shucks. We start blending in shell corn towards the finish. We have two 16' squirrel cages that we fill every year. I think that they are about 15 foot tall, but I have never measured them. We never use all of both cages in any given year, but no corn gets more than two years old. It keeps pretty well in those things. With modern hybrids, it usually takes 10 acres or less to get us the ear corn we need to feed our cattle for the year. A NI 2-row pull type handles the modern hybrids just fine.
My Mother has one of those round wire corn cribs. She was using it as a "Peac-ck Pagoda", and even pickled the roof metal so that it would look like verdegris. We were finally able to get her to give the peac-cks away--the poor birds were outside all year long, even in the New England winter. Would be happy to sell it--as mentioned in previous posts, they're modular for assembly/disassembly. Overall height is 16 feet, with a diameter of 12 feet, 6 inches. It's located in Montville, CT.
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Grandpa told me one time before he passed how they moved a couple of those squirrel cages. He said they bought four 18-foot boards and fastened them like spokes, with the ends of the boards poking about a foot through the outside of the cage. They spaced the boards top to bottom to brace the sides from bending, either in or out. With the ends sticking a foot outside, it kept the roof eaves from getting bent up. They set posts against the bottom on one side to keep it from sliding. I think they had two tractors tied to cables on either side of the top of the cage. One pulled the cage over while the other backed up and let it down slowly onto its side, in one piece, with the roof intact. They rolled it onto a trailer, moved it to the new location, and tipped it back up pretty much the same way. Of course, that was several decades ago on rural Iowa roads. Your cage is a smaller diameter, but I still don't know if you can get away with that these days in CT. If you do buy it and move it, I would be interested to hear how the move went. Please let us know.
My dad, my friend Brent, and I took down a Behlen crib a few years back. We did take 2x6s and ran them through the side walls to create a platform where Brent and I could unbolt the roof panels and while my dad was using a step ladder to guide the panels down to the ground. Then we unbolted the wall panels and loaded everything onto a trailer. When we arrived back to my dad's farm, we just reversed the process. We did use the tractor/loader to help get the roof panels up and started. The whole process didn't take alot of muscle just alittle planning and time to do it. I just wished I would have had the ratchet boxend wrenches back then as I do today.
I believe my dad paid $75 for that crib on an auction. There were two other identical corn cribs on that auction and they went for $35 a piece. Why the difference? The one we bought was on the site of the auction while the other two were on a different site. We had been at another auction earlier that summer where there was a brand new, never been erected Behlen corn crib. The one thing I remember about the crib was that all of the nuts and bolts were in old wooden military munitions boxes. That one sold for $350.
The corn crib is the pictures. It is the one with the steep pitched roof. I included a closer photo of it with the Heider auger in front of it. I always liked the Behlen cribs because the top cover looks like a pop/beer cap!
Behlen Manufacturing still makes them. They now call the Zoo Cages on their website. I just put a new one up this fall. Behlen contact for corn cribs in Ron Falk. Call 800-553-5520 or email ron.falk@behlenmfg.com Ron has about 40 years in this business and is very easy to do business with.
One issue with the new cribs; Behlen no longer makes the vent tubes, so I had to build my own.
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You can see them on the Behlen web site, with tigers in them. They still come in the galvanized coating or a black painted coating. Zoological cages they are called now.
If you guys need to move a corn crib just a mile or two down the road, this process works well. What my dad and I have done is torched off the bolts on the concrete pad, jacked up the crib 10 inches or so and run 4X6 runners under the crib. Brace the runners together with 2X4's , hook a chain up to the runners and pull it with a tractor. Watch out for power lines though!!