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Need help aligning a belt drive hammermill to Farmall 140.


I bought an old McCormick Deering hammermill to grind ear corn for the pigs.  It is belt drive.  I have a Farmall 140 and the belt pully came today.  I also bought a 4"x20' long belt.  We ran it for a while tonight and had a problem keeping the belt in line.  Man was it hard to line up the tractor and the hammermill. 

The hammermill is mounted on two 4x12x16 foot long skids.  We drove T-posts into the ground to keep the hammermill from sliding.  I would then drive the Farmall forward to place tension on the belt.

Any suggestions for getting the two pulleys in line, so the belt won't either walk too far to the left and rub on the hammermill and tractor, or jump off.

The hammermill has an 8" wide leather pully on it and the Farmall has an 8" wide steel pully.

 

Chris



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I have had some trouble lining up the belts on my mill and saw.  I try to get the equipment inline with the tractor as best I can, however having the mill and the tractor as level as possible helps also(yes I break out the 4' carpenters level).  Another bit of information I have found in the operators the equipment recommends using a flat belt at least 50' in length works best.  Hope this helps!



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Try putting one t-post in, to hold one corner of the mill. then hook up the belt loose and pivot the mill for alignment.  After it runs with no load, drive the second post to hold it.

You shouldn't need to be perfect, is there a slight crown on both pullies??  I'm thinking if you tighten the belt too much you might have more trouble also. It's been awhile since I've been around flat belted machinery.

Good luck, let us know how it works out.

Tim

 

 



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Is your belting rubber or leather? If you have a leather belt while "rolling over" the mill put a little mineral spirits on the inside of the belt it will help the belt to grip the pulley surface.



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Hoosier Picker wrote:

I have had some trouble lining up the belts on my mill and saw.  I try to get the equipment inline with the tractor as best I can, however having the mill and the tractor as level as possible helps also(yes I break out the 4' carpenters level).  Another bit of information I have found in the operators the equipment recommends using a flat belt at least 50' in length works best.  Hope this helps!


 Good Lord!  50'.  I bought a 10' belt. 20' of belting and it was$80.00.  A 50' belt (100' belting) would have been $400.00.

 



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I bought the belt from http://www.hitnmiss.com/index.html .  I bought the 4" belt.  It appears to be leather.  I will try a little mineral spirits on the belt.



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NW Ohio Tim wrote:

Try putting one t-post in, to hold one corner of the mill. then hook up the belt loose and pivot the mill for alignment.  After it runs with no load, drive the second post to hold it.

You shouldn't need to be perfect, is there a slight crown on both pullies??  I'm thinking if you tighten the belt too much you might have more trouble also. It's been awhile since I've been around flat belted machinery.

Good luck, let us know how it works out.

Tim

I did drive in two T-post to hold the hammermill still.  I had to stretch the belt pretty tight to get it to not slip.  I'm going to knock some of the paint off the flat belt pully on the tractor (it was brand new when I received it from the seller on e-bay) and use a little mineral spirits on the belt to help with traction.

The pulley on the hammermill is leather, but pretty hard.  It hasn't been used in several years.  There is a slight crown in the pulley, but it's pretty worn.  Is there anything I can put on it to help soften the pulley.

 

Chris 

 


 

 



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I'll try to take some pictures on Saturday. I'm assistant chief in a volunteer fire dept. and we are burning a house on Saturday. Maybe I'll get to the hammermill on Saturday afternoon. Chris



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Hey Chris,

What I was trying to say about the t posts was to just drive one in first, then pivot the mill to fine tune the alignment with the tractor.  Drive the second post in to hold it and then tighten the belt. 

You shouldn't have to be exact, flat belts are pretty forgiving as I remember.

Tim



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o.k. will try!

 

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You might try putting 3 or 4 rounds of friction tape in the middle of the pulley on the tractor. I have also had good luck with sprayon belt dressing to keep it from slipping. That 140 has a rear pulley right ? Another set of eyes to get lined up would probably help alot.

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Try aligning the tractor to the belt so you can run a twist in the belt. That gives better wrap to both pulleys and stops whipping caused by cross-winds. We always put a twist in our drive belts. Every thresher is made to run this way. Good luck.
Jerry

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