I passed them up at sales because i heard they clogged unmercifully and you had to constantly feather the hand clutch. I had one given to me but he didnt want to pull it out just then and then went back later and he gave it to someone else. Most i seen went for $1-2.oo and scrappers got. Still like to try one once. I got a dearborn mounted on a wd 45. They both need work but looking forward to using it